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Compressor-Delay chain

Postby jankob » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:20 am

I am looking for a Comp-Dly chain.
The Comp similar to that one in FX Chain 553 (HarKneeComp). Delay should be FX Chain 25 - Basic delay (with tap tempo).
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Re: Compressor-Delay chain

Postby mikeh11 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:42 pm

TLDR:
FX Chain IDs 4214, 4215, 4217 have HardKneeCompress, while SoftKneeCompress is in 692, 736, 738, 786, 868, 894, 932, 970, 984, 990, 997, 3305. All of these end with 4-Tap Delay BPM.

Long version:

I searched a text listing of the FX chains from the Forte 2.10 OS for "Hard", "Delay", and "BPM", and got this list:

Type ID Size Name TotalPAU NumFX FX-Chain AlgID AlgName AlgPAU ...
FXchain 25 460 "Basic Delay 1/8" 1 1 Dly 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 55 448 "Hard Knee Comprs" 1 1 Cmpr 330 HardKneeCompress 1
FXchain 4214 796 "Solo Alto Sax" 6 5 Filt-Cmpr-Filt-Phsr-Dly 363 Resonant Filter 1 330 HardKneeCompress 1 360 Env Follow Filt 2 251 LFO Phaser Twin 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 4215 796 "Solo Tenor Sax" 6 5 Filt-Cmpr-Filt-Phsr-Dly 363 Resonant Filter 1 330 HardKneeCompress 1 360 Env Follow Filt 2 251 LFO Phaser Twin 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 4217 796 "Solo Bari Sax" 6 5 Filt-Cmpr-Filt-Phsr-Dly 363 Resonant Filter 1 330 HardKneeCompress 1 360 Env Follow Filt 2 251 LFO Phaser Twin 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1

The first two entries show the algorithms for your preferred effects.
The other three lines are the fx chains that matched.

If you can live with a soft-knee compress, there's a bunch more:

FXchain 692 568 "CompDelay12" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 736 516 "CompDelay" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 738 520 "BIGCompDelay" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 786 584 "EnhanceComp1" 4 3 Enhc-Cmpr-Dly 371 3 Band Enhancer 2 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 868 516 "CompDelay" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 894 612 "EPChr60" 3 3 Chor-Cmpr-Dly 200 Chorus 1 1 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 932 516 "CompDelay3" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 970 520 "CompDelay101" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 984 584 "EnhanceComp121" 4 3 Enhc-Cmpr-Dly 371 3 Band Enhancer 2 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 990 500 "CompDelay" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 997 516 "CompDelay3" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1
FXchain 3305 532 "7thHeavenCmpSlap" 2 2 Cmpr-Dly 331 SoftKneeCompress 1 150 4-Tap Delay BPM 1

(sorry for the long lines - it sure looks more complicated than it really is).
I'm on a PC3LE, otherwise I'd just make you one! :(
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Re: Compressor-Delay chain

Postby jankob » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:46 am

Hi,
thank you for the looong list :)
I have the LE, so I do not have all those fx chains. I know there are some Comp-Dly chains in the LE, but only with few controllable parameters. I need to controll Dly Feedback, Wet/Dry, BPM and Comp On/Off, Ratio, Threshold (Knee, Attck, Rel & Gain would be perfect).
Maybe for this time I will live without it (´cause from tomorrow to sunday we will play at a conferrence).
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Re: Compressor-Delay chain

Postby mikeh11 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:34 pm

Ah, sorry. I noticed that the FX you wanted were not in the PLE object file, so I thought you had something "bigger", like a Forte.

Well, these are the PLE 2.26 FX chains that match something with a Knee and a BPM:

FXchain 692 "CompDelay12" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 736 "CompDelay" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 738 "BIGCompDelay" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 786 "EnhanceComp1" Enhc-Cmpr-Dly,371,3 Band Enhancer,2,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 868 "CompDelay" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 911 "Echplex 1" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,170,Degen Regen BPM,4
FXchain 914 "Echplex 2" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,170,Degen Regen BPM,4
FXchain 932 "CompDelay3" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 970 "CompDelay101" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 984 "EnhanceComp121" Enhc-Cmpr-Dly,371,3 Band Enhancer,2,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 990 "CompDelay" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1
FXchain 997 "CompDelay3" Cmpr-Dly,331,SoftKneeCompress,1,150,4-Tap Delay BPM,1

I don't know if they've got the editable parameters that you need, but maybe it will cut down on the search time?
Good luck!

Edit:
692 = has tempo, w/d, cmpr threshhold
738, 868, 932, 997 = has dly fdbk, tempo, w/d
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