New Kurzweil PC4

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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby cecchino » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:07 am

happyrat1 wrote:According to Google, Musikmesse 2019's own website and every search I tried, Kurzweil is not even an exhibitor this year.

Gary, please stop it 8-) 8-) 8-) !!!
You probably need to refine your search methods:
https://musik.messefrankfurt.com/frankf ... music.html
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby eibinger » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:19 am

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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby cecchino » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:46 am

eibinger wrote:Don't worry about Gary!

I don't! He's a very nice guy, with unconventional opinions, and I usually like what he writes. Only, this time the game is going on too long ;)
Are there any informations about the weight and the versions (88, 76, 61)?
Maybe a price-estimation?

These are some good points (and will probably determine the success of this very-promising-still-not-the-K2xx-heir-keyboard)! And, let me ask...
- does the fact that you can use four switch pedals on two connectors (like I do with halved numbers on my SP4) imply there is no half-pedaling feature?
- We have some audio inputs, but nothing is said about possible sampling (and the FX feature is reported only on the 1/8" stereo input): should we expect we'll be able to sample in the future? And/or maybe we'll be able to use the audio input as a source for VAST processing?
Maybe I'm asking too much at present time...
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby DaveBeta » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:30 am

Looks very interesting and I can't wait to see the full specs. My initial thoughts are :

1. Inputs - yes!! The ability to run another board into my main one, and just have a single DI sending to FOH is just what I want. I've been able to do it with a Kronos for ages and had limited success with the 3.5mm input on the Forte. But proper connections is just what I want
2. 88 weighted keys - I'll be interested to see what keybeds are offered. I'm loving my Forte7 after years of PC3/k7s and do hope that any 76key version is also weighted
3. Looks well layed out and the rumour is a plastic case rather than metal so lighter which (as I get older) is always nice. As long as it has a proper IEC power input and aftertouch (things which other manufacturers are - stupidly - removing for product line differentitaion) I'll be happy.

I'm hoping that the chaps have also thought about allowing the 'storage' type A usb port to accept class compliant midi devices - I can do that in my Kronos and it gives me a second physical keyboard with a single connection. I've just mostly there with the Forte by powering over USB and using midi, but it was a pain to find a usb keyboard that accepts power over usb but transmits midi. Most are either / or it seems. (the good ones anyway)

My only concern is what this means for the Forte - is this the new 'baby brother' or a replacement? The Forte has always been a bit of a confused beast - first a piano, then general keyboard, then a workstation ... love it to bits, but it's a bit of an odd one sometimes.

Hopefully good times ahead!
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby cecchino » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:26 am

Let me put this thread up :) ...
Fran, may you give some info on the timings?
When will this new keyboard land in our favourite shops?
And when will us be able to read the complete specs (and possibly the manual)?
Summer season and open space gigs are coming :D
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby MZ2015 » Wed May 08, 2019 7:08 am

Is it going to be compatible with Setups from the PC3 series and with P3K files?
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby cecchino » Fri May 24, 2019 12:07 am

cecchino wrote:Let me put this thread up :) ...
Fran, may you give some info on the timings?
When will this new keyboard land in our favourite shops?
And when will us be able to read the complete specs (and possibly the manual)?
Summer season and open space gigs are coming :D

I quote myself just to add a comment...
Lessons learnt: never post questions people are not allowed to answer :D
BTW if everything goes fine, tomorrow I'll have a PC3 (used, mint condition) to replace sp4 for summer gigs.
Crossing fingers...
PC4 remains an option for the future.
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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby geoela » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:55 pm

Hey Fran. Can you tell me how the PC4 piano compares to the Forte piano? The pianos on my PC3K8 have very short sustain and the notes drop out quickly, then there’s that really fake sounding sustaining thing happening. I’m assuming it’s because of the lower amount of sample memory. I’m aware that the Forte has 16G of samples compared to 2G in the PC4, so I’m not expecting the PC4 to be as good. But can you tell me just how good are the PC4 pianos?
I’m hearing a key bed change from the TP40L which is unfortunate.
I am considering a move from my PC3K8 but I don’t know which way to go...Forte? Or PC4. Or leave Kurzweil for something else. Got some thinking to do. I hate to leave the TP40L key bed, and the Forte’s 16G of samples is attractive. Just don’t know. Help me Fran if you can.

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Re: New Kurzweil PC4

Postby hipogrito » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:25 pm

Hi,

The piano samples of the PC4 are like the Forte SE or SP6. Basically you have all the samples of the PC3 series (with expansions) plus a sub-set of the Forte samples, that includes some Forte piano samples. In addition to all the features that are now standard in our products and the PC3 series doesn't have, like String Resonance, for example.

So, you can surely have better pianos in the PC4 than in the PC3 series.

Note that the PC4 comes with lots of Programs that use those samples. Because it's not just the samples themselves but also how the Programs use them.

The Forte, obviously, have all the roots of the German and Japanese, without looping... they are huge in size and that's why it sounds so well but that's why it has 16 GB of space.

Regarding the action, the PC4 has a very decent action. Yes, the Forte is better and that's another big part of the price difference between the 2 products, which is very substantial.
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