I gigged w/ a GEM Equinox 88 key (72 pounds 33kg) for 10 years using a double braced X stand (Quiklok). Never had one issue. Solid as a rock. I even added a 2nd tied 50 pound keyboard. No issues.

I use an Onstage 2 tier Z stand at home with a PC3K8.

They also have a single tier model.

Rated for over 300 lbs it's rock steady and breaks down in minutes for transport. Lots of open space down below for pedals as well.

http://www.amazon.com/-Stage-KS7365EJ-H ... B0002F6JH6

http://www.amazon.com/Stage-KS7350-Heav ... B000LCRP14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIX2nuV9eU

Gary

Thanks for your suggestions.
I think thats was'nt still what I'm looking for.

The X-Stand I don't like, I own two pieces of X, my fav for mixer and additionals, not for keys.
The Z looks interesting, but complicated because of many pieces to transport separately.
And is much to expensive, in germany or with delivery to it is about 408 $ (367 Euro), this is the 2 tier.

And I think I will need an additional holder for my iPad, it is to buy too.

That's a ridiculous price. I paid about $150 CDN for mine taxed and shipped.

My advice is to take a look at Thomann.de and see what they have available in Z stands.

They don't have to be broken apart completely for transport either. Usually it's simply good enough to fold back the arms and feet and it folds flat to a rectangle for easy transport.

Gary

Thomann.de has hundreds of stands in all shapes and price ranges.

http://www.thomann.de/de/search_dir.htm ... dst%E4nder

I'd also advise avoiding X stands and Ultimate stands as well.

The Jaspers look solid and reasonably priced in Europe so I'd suggest looking at those.

Gary

Thomann is my favourite seller, I bought some pieces there.
Often there is no max weight for the stands at seller page, so you have to search for more informations and experiences. Thats why I'm asking here.
Ultimate AX series is really an eyecatcher I like. Bur I have read about broken tier arm holders, so I'm unsure.
Next part I like to use the kurzweil within a case, so its some bigger then the single instrument.
The Jasper are nice to, but the D series I own (or something similar) is t small, its only 120 cm range, the kurzweil is withour case 144 cm. And the other series are two or three tier, I only need one tier and a pad or charts holder.

Dirk

I am using an Ultimate Stand Apex with the 18" arms and super-clamp for my PC3K8.
This is the most stable configuration I have ever used and is perfect for heavy keyboards.
Pre-Kurzweil - for years I have had one of Roland's master keyboards on it and that keyboard was even heavier than the PC3K8.

Thanks for this posting.
Is it an older or a new Apex, like written before there are users telling about broken clamps because of materials problems with the newer one.
Dirk

Hi Dirk, I can only speak from personal experience and must admit that I was a little apprehensive at first to put a 30kg keyboard on two bars. But again - that personal experience has shown me that it works fine. The stand is 5+ years old. I cannot comment on what someone may have read in a forum somewhere and I am not aware of any structural problems with Apex. They are a long running successful company. The best advice I can give you is to find a shop that has several brands and models in stock and inspect, try-out and compare warranties...

I use a hercules Z stand. It's pretty easy to fold down and as solid as a rock.