I am a Forte user too, if anyone can help i would be very appreciated

J have Kore sounds for Artis ? Is the same for Forte...?

I am a Forte user too, if anyone can help i would be very appreciated

Kore sound for artis are here http://www.muzykuj.com/brzmienia/autorskie-brzmienia.html

Artico78,

Thank you, thank you ,thank you.
That is a great resource too.

I wish there was a download of the PC3 factory objects. Programs, setups/multis, chains etc.
Starting from scratch with limited time is impossible. VAST is demanding.
I'm learning it but having something close to what you need is a more efficient use of time.
After all these years somebody must have saved it all out.

I'm currently in the middle of replacing a Kronos and a Stage 2 with the Forte.
It's a daunting task.
I may have to use the Stage 2 just for the user samples which the Forte can't do. (Yet.Please oh please Kurz!!)
The Kronos did all these things too. Just not my cup o tea.

The Forte just kills on setting up the keyboard to do anything really.

John

You are welcome Hooch, the start with 1st kurzweil is not easy, but its very powerful its like have a car with automatic gear and u pass with manual gear, u can drive better, but its work

Hm, well. Seems like a PC3 (with Kore) owner should simply save the factory sounds to several files of... - uh, how many did you say you need in a file? Can´t be that difficult, huh?
Let´s see what I can do. But don´t be surprised, the PC3(x) has many sounds with little nuances in between. Especially many bread and butter sounds.

All,

That link from Artico78 gets you all the Kore presets (I think) which helps a lot.
Theres a bunch of very usable stuff you just can't address on the Forte directly.

Ok then, just use the Forte editor.
The Forte editor is another very steep learning curve.
Time. Time is my enemy here.

I'm already a big Kurz fan. I can hear the reason it is "The Sound".
And I understand why now that it takes 10-20 hours to create an excellent patch on this platform.
The velocity tweaks you can do per patch! Good grief! It really adds that sense of realism.

Kaffimusc,

Here's hoping that a .pc3 file can be created of all the PC3 preset sounds.
Not sure why it's just not there to grab off the Kurzweil support pages.
If I had access to one I would be all over it.
It makes a lot of sense to get as much as possible in to as many devoted users hands so they can
trumpet the brand so to speak.

Thank you,
John

Yep, but I was asking about the number of programs that should be in one package. I guess some variants are not able to load all in a row and also not able to pick one out of the datafile like the PC3 can do. So it might make sense to do maybe 50 in one file, because the factory presets end somewhere above 1000. Plus maybe the generalmidi sounds. There are several among them that come in handy.

EDIT: Bad news: I just tried to save the programs from 1-1024 to a file. Well. It does not work. Never tried that, so I did not know it does not do it. The operation just lets you save user objects, it seems. Though I can select those soundbanks, the saving process does not execute.
Well, now we might consider walking around that problem by saving those 1024 programs to user banks and make them "custom" this way. Maybe a machine with no other stuff loaded there might be enough room for that (remember, it also has to do a copy of all FX chains and other dependencies) but since there is no working editor/bankmanager (just that crap from ST) that can copy 1024 programs at once, my motivation to go through ALL sounds and copy them manually one by one is close to zero.
Maybe Hipogrito knows some trick that I don´t know.

I already asked for this at Kurzweil. I hope we will once get a File with all the Kore and PC3 Banks. The coolest thing would be to have a legacy bank (for example from ID 4000 on or something) with all this presets directly on the Forte. Then loading PC3 Setups with factory programs wouldn't be a problem. Right now it is not possible to load PC3 Setups with factory programs.

Kaffimusic,

I figured that is what would have to be done.
If I had a PC3 available I would do it.
Let's say knock out 10-20 when ever I get a chance.

Yes it would take some time but it would be worth every minute considering the amount of
time it takes to build a single patch from scratch.

I'm not trying to devalue the PC3 at all.
There's just so much the Forte is capable of.
It is screaming to be let loose.

It feels like I've been told there is a wonderful place just over the horizon.
Here is a telescope that's pointed at one place on that island.
You can't move it or increase the power of it. It's stuck right there.
You know something important is there but you just get this snapshot that
you have to noodle out information as best you can.
You just want to know as much as possible about that magical place.

Something floats ashore. It's some kind of instructions that you just can't fathom.
It has something to do with the telescope and a map.
Your head hurts trying to figure out all the intertwined layers of thing you can't understand.
Nobody cares because they know they can't change anything. "It is what it is." they say.

That all sounds a bit harsh but this kind of scenario crosses my mind.

The Forte is extremely powerful.
I can only see certain predefined things.
You can't explore beyond those predefined things so you do your best.
The editor is the key. Right?
I've gone through a fair bit of it and it's not exactly intuitive by any stretch.
So I have to work forensic gleaning from other non Kurzweil sources. Yes. Not Kurzweil.
All these years and iteration of the PC3 and no default downloadable patch resource?
I honestly am a bit dumbfounded that it appears to be so.

John

Edited for spelling

Well i've done more digging here and found the giant list of PC3LE programs that appear to be a bunch of those
unfindable PC3 programs.

Will these work in the Forte or am I on the brink of causing problems.
I ran into to some really odd problems with other PC3 programs.

For instance turning all the front panel lights on with offending programs.
Yep. All the LED's. I got some pretty colors too. I had to turn it off to clear it.

Or causing bizarre arpeggios to run in the back ground. And even some freezes.

Thanks

All I own is two PC3 "full version" variants. So I can´t really compare or tell about the cross-over portability. But I know the whole line is very close related to each other on hardware level - the models before the release of Artis and Forte limited compared to the original PC3, the Forte and the Artis stronger and also weaker in some aspects.
Especially with the Forte, it seems there are still some software-limitations and functions that needs to be done to load PC3 sounds flawlessly. I believe on hardware-level in theory it is able to play everything the PC3 can (don´t know about samples). But, well, the software is still not in that state to do that.#
And rememer: the Forte (and the Artis) were pronounced as "stage pianos". Don´t expect them to be more than that. They MIGHT become more, but they are not now.

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