I was tryin' to call those general midi programs up . I figured that calling up 4001 would do the trick but all I got was not found. Instead I had 4096 my only user program ( 4096 is the 1st slot for user programs - - at this time I don't think the pc4 has general midi inside.

Okay I went to Kurzweil home page went to products then to Pc4 page then to product comparison page & states no general midi - - to be fair about it the Forte also doesn't have general midi but (I think) any PC3 does!

Yes larrywary.

You are right, thanks for the hint.

No General MIDI mode in PC4.

I was going thru the keymaps & lo and behold the PC4 has all the keymaps for gen. midi from the PC3 series ( including the Gen. midi effects controls) ,so in theory all you need to do is take the General Midi programs from the PC3 series (just programs - no dependents) & load into the PC3. Who knows maybe it'll work.

https://ksetlist.com/community/the-kurzweil-set-list-for-pc3-pc3k-pc3a-pc3le-sp4-sp5-sp6-artis-artisse-forte-fortese/gm-general-midi-for-sp6-and-or-pc3k/#post-8989